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Asunto:Re: [dxcolombia] RE: [CQ-Contest] RA3CO
Fecha:Domingo, 7 de Junio, 2009  11:20:02 (-0500)
Autor:HK3CW <cwdude @.....com>
En respuesta a:Mensaje 5476 (escrito por David J. Sourdis)

David,
 
Muy buena su respuesta al señor "Ragozinski"...como siempre hay quienes intentan dar vuelta a la verdad simple y llana. El colmo de este señor---encima de ladrón bufón.
 
73 de HK3CW  Roberto
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 2:42 AM
Subject: [dxcolombia] RE: [CQ-Contest] RA3CO


Hello all.

I hope that the moderator will let this pass and I offer my apologies to all if I it looks like I use this channel to remove the dirt around this HK3AR issue, but there are many things that cannot be left unsaid, specially when some ill-intentioned comments are said by people who don't have the moral authority to say anything about it. I have read comments in some ham forums and I decided not to answer them, but I had enough. Please let this words on behalf of some HK hams be read by all. Everybody has the right to defend themselves.

Regarding visiting Colombia, I had no idea about Mr. Weil's travels and troubles with colombian hams. I must say that there´s always more than one version of all the tales. I also understand it was a long time ago. Anyway, for a little more recent references and not half a century old news, we should ask K3ZO, N3JT or John J. Boucher whose callsign I've forgotten and he lived here 9 years and many other hams who have visited SEVERAL TIMES HK land, what they think about it.

Mr. Ragozinski:

I agree with the complaint filed to the Communications Ministry of Colombia and agree with the decision taken by this institution and also agree with the decision taken by the contest comitee. I don´t know about the variety of possible suggested reasons they had to do so, for me and many others it was an illegal operation, period. And it is incredible that you and some of your fiends try now to show that the bad guys of this "movie" are the ones who took the initiative to do what they righteously did and they were supported by many other hams in Colombia, including myself. Including my colleagues from Spain, the Torrent Contest Club, we worked that contest as M/S and HK3AR was the only one HK station we logged. When I learned that an illegal operation had taken place in Colombia  I felt ashamed, I felt like I couldn't look to the faces of my spanish contest mates because this had happened. And more because this affected our score and we were in a foto finish with another spanish M/S group, and the difference on scores were less than half a multiplier for the first place in Spain. So in my case, there is no jealousy, it is just a matter of doing things right and about not doing invalid multipliers in a contest because somebody, with the help and suppor of others, pirated a callsign, that applies here too and doesn't make me happy scorewise.

It is a matter of doing things right in a country were many of us are tired of the wrong doing, the corruption, and we dont want to look away anymore, even when this kind of attitude SOMETIMES can be very hazardous to your health, Mr. Ragozinski. We just try to put our grain of sand, or our two cents, to make this a better country, but some are afraid to take actions about this because it can be dangerous in a place where the voices who complain about wrong doing can be silenced by bullets or by others with obscure interests who try to ridiculize and calumniate them and deviate the public attention in other direction.

It is insulting for all of the more than 20 colombian hams, who supported with their signature the complaint against A CASE ILLEGAL USE OF HAM RADIO IN COLOMBIA, that there's has been some comments in some internet ham pages propped by a group of hams, trying to change the subject. Trying to make us look like the bandits, like just a bunch of jealous and envious hams, give me a break!

So, Mr. Ragozinski, if you came to this country to support or consider that is OK to break the law, if you came here to mock of and insult honest hams, persons who try to do things right even when it can be dangerous in some cases, please give your HK ham license back and go back to Poland or wherever you came from. We don't need people like you here.



David  Sourdis
HK1KXA
EC5KXA




> From: jamesdavidcain@gmail.com
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:51:00 -0400
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] RA3CO
>
> In all Danny Weil's travels, the one, only, country where he got into a hassle with local hams was Colombia. It's all in my book.
>
> Jim Cain, K1TN
> www.arrl.org/catalog/yasme/
>
>
> It's interesting to me that I have visited the stations of two of the operators who filed the complaint agains RA3CO and was permitted to make QSO's using their calls. Their complaint was based on two factors from what I understand:
>
> 1. Colombian law does not permit "loaning" ones' station to another
> 2. Yuri was not properly licensed/not permitted to use the call HK3RA
>
> Seems like two of those boys are similar to the pot calling the kettle black at least in the first regard. My opinion is that it was pure jealousy at work and nothing more. They also accused me of operating illegally from HK7 based on nothing more than spots that were seen on the clusters. mmmmmmmmmmm..............
>
>
> Tony W4OI/HK1AR
>
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