|Asunto:||[dxcolombia] FW: Re: [CQ-Contest] Recording your CQ WW CW contest. FT2000|
|Fecha:||Viernes, 14 de Diciembre, 2007 23:35:04 (+0000)|
|Autor:||David J. Sourdis <hk1kxa @.......com>
Lo que se está cociendo entre una parte de los integrantes de la comunidad
de concurseros: Parece que hay mucha trampa en algunos de los primeros
lugares y a alguien se le ha ocurrido que además del log se debería enviar
la grabación de audio de todo el concurso en caso de que el puntaje dé para
primeros lugares. La cosa está dividida..., se sugiere, ya criticando la
ocurrencia, la grabación en video o reconocimiento de la voz, que es como
las huellas digitales, para asegurarse de que la persona que opera siempre
es la misma en el caso de las categorías SO (single operator, o
El fin de semana pasado participé en el 10m ARRL contest, como Multi single,
con EA5GS, EA5KV y EA5ON, usamos una vertical de media onda, la Explorer 14
a 24m de alto y una dipolo de media onda, bajita para hops cortos. Además un
lineal ACOM 1000 y lo mas interesante para mí: l FT2000, el concurso es en
modo mixto, CW y SSB para los M/S. Muy interesante lo de los dos VFOs en
dual RX, podíamos estar llamando en SSB mientras curullabamos en la subbanda
de CW, el VFO principal por el oído izquierdo y el otro en el derecho. El
FT2000 hace notar que es un radio diseñado por y para concurseros, tiene un
precio aproximado de 2.500 Euros aquí. Muy bueno su display con números
grandes, parecidos a los del IC765 y la parte del display donde muestra todo
el tiempo el estado completo del filtraje, IF shift, etc.
----Original Message Follows----
From: Barry <w2up3@...>
To: Dave Sloan <desloan@...>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Recording your CQ WW CW contest
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:45:20 +0000
Such a video recording would only prove you were the only op in front of
that radio or within the field of the camera. Rumor has it that the
disqualified station responsible for this discussion had another station
and operator, at another location, chasing multipliers.
Dave Sloan wrote:
> I would assume that the visual recording would be used to prove that
> were the only operator during the contest! Maybe we also need to think of
> taking a voice print to ensure that the same person made all of the
> audio contacts? HE SAID TOUNGE IN CHEEK! HI HI
> TNX & 73,
> Dave N0EOP
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@...
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Paul J. Piercey
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 8:59 AM
> To: cq-contest@...
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Recording your CQ WW CW contest
> So I guess the next generation of $12,000.00 rigs will have built-in
> audio/visual recording capabilities.
> 73 -- Paul VO1HE
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cq-contest-bounces@...
>> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Scott Robbins
>> Sent: December 14, 2007 14:14
>> To: cq-contest@...
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Recording your CQ WW CW contest
>>> Mid June sometimes I turn on 6m and find a contest going on,
>> so I pass
>>> out a few points. Then it starts to rain and I stay on and
>> play some
>>> on 2m and 70cm. I send a log in and get a certificate. I
>> didn't mean
>>> to, but I accidentally became a 'serious' entrant. Should I
>> be denied
>>> a certificate because I didn't record the whole contest?
>> Perhaps. Just like you have to log, you have to record if
>> you expect to win.
>> It is not at all unreasonable. What we're talking about here
>> is a mindset shift, not unlike when the contest community
>> switched from paper logging to computer based logging. The
>> next logical step in the digital age is recording.
>>> So what? WRTC is a limited event with a limited number of competing
>>> stations. To require everyone who HOPES he might have a
>> chance to win
>>> to record all 48 hours or to DENY anyone who might be lucky
>> enough to
>>> surpass his own expectations and actually WIN the "title" because he
>>> didn't record all
>>> 48 hours (or heaven forbid, had a recording failure) is asinine.
>> I would venture at the top end of SOABHP radio contesting,
>> that you are discussing a limited event with a limited number
>> of stations as well. There are not 100 people vying for the
>> top 10 in any category of any major contest.
>> There are surely *100 entrants*, and I would say 95% or 98%
>> of all of them have no reason to record themselves operating
>> the contest.
>> Recording should be right up there with logging. If you
>> didn't log it, you didn't work it. If you didn't record it,
>> you didn't work it. Very simple.
>>> Contest sponsors and log checkers can properly review the
>> logs of the
>>> top stations without either recordings or making the logs
>> public. If
>>> they can't they might as well cancel the whole contest because they
>>> don't have any business sponsoring the event.
>> That is apparently incorrect on its face. Because if contest
>> sponsors and log checkers COULD properly review the logs
>> without recordings and determine who is legit and who is not,
>> we wouldn't be having this discussion about cheating, would we?
>>> So now I have to record an entire contest somehow and if by
>> chance my
>>> hard drive crashes on the way back to the USA my score does
>> not count....
>> That is correct. Just like if you have no log, with no
>> recording you have no entry. Logs are backed up to floppies
>> or by other means when operating the contest, recordings can
>> be as well.
>>> This is 21st century.... What tape you are talking about.
>> Get yourself
>>> cheap MP3 player with line input and 1-2Gig of memory and you can
>>> easily record 48 hours 2 radio and get file transferred to
>> you home PC
>>> for later use.
>> Like I said ... SIMPLE.
>> Scott Robbins, W4PA
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