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Asunto:[ajedrezlapalma] Kramnik - Leko , Mundial Clásico (4), Brissago (2ª parte)
Fecha:Jueves, 30 de Septiembre, 2004  21:17:16 (+0100)
Autor:Angel Jiménez <aarteaga @...............com>

24. Rb1

24... Rb8

[24... f5 0 25. Nc7 7 25... Bc8 4 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: hmm perhaps it does BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: cb5 26. cxb5 14 26... axb5 1 27. Rxb5 1 27... fxe4 0 28. Qxe4 1 28... Bxh3 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: better for white BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: clearly MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Qe5 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Rc5 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Qe5? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: he said Qe5 did he? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :P ]

25. cxb5

[25. Qe3 0 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: or Rc1 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: waiting move LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: who knows ;

25. Rec1 0 0 frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: rec1 f5 0 25... bxc4 12 2 26. dxc4 2 1 26... f5 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: = 1 27. Nc7 12 1 27... Rxb1 3 (27... Bc8 15 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this is also possible :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: good ol' Bc8 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: here 28. Rxb8 13 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: exf5 last time (28. exf5 21 28... Rxf5 2 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Qd5 29. Qd5 10 29... Rf7 2 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: looks pretty bad LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: looks bad, but Rb2 is threat BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Ne8 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: !? MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: f4 30. Ne8 19 (30. f4 23 30... Qxf4 1 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: forketta said it first :)) muisback (GM) kibitzes: Hello Alejandro!!!!!!!!!!! MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Qd8 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: hi muisback!!! muisback (GM) kibitzes: hi there! 31. Qd8 10 31... Rf8 1 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Rf8... MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: ahhh LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: nothing ) 30... Bb7 6 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this loses? MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: h4no MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: f4 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: back ) 28... Qxc1 1 Sea-Hawk (FM) kibitzes: why not bc4? ) 28. Rxb1 0 28... fxe4 7 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: fe Qf8 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) ;

25. Nc7 26 25... bxc4 4 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this isnt that hard to hold Heliopolitanus (IM) kibitzes: Ne6 26. Nxe6 15 26... fxe6 1 27. Rxb8 2 27... Rxb8 2 28. dxc4 1 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: empty.. 28... Qd2 16 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: simmis BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Rd1 ]

25... Bxd5 0 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: nice, this is the idea 510

[25... axb5 0 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: ab LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: but this? MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Nc7 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this is just good for black 0 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Nc7 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: what else? BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Rfc8 then 0 26. Nc7 6 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Bd7 Na6 10 1 (26. Rec1 61 26... Rfc8 9 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: ok MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Nc7 b4 Ne6 fe Qe2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yes gets is Lekos chance to try to do something MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: and Qa2 ) 26... b4 4 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Na6 1 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: bd7 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: why Bd7? MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: ab 4 27. Na6 7 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: no (27. axb4 25 27... cxb4 0 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Na6 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: not that much MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Rb6 28. Na6 19 28... Rb6 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ooooh tactics :) ; 27. Nxe6 1 muisback (GM) kibitzes: time 27... fxe6 0 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Ne6 28. Qe2 1 muisback (GM) whispers: flag MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Qa2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Ill fix :) 28... bxa3 19 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: I dont know MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Qa2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: perhaps a bitbitbit better for white LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: but almost nothing muisback (GM) kibitzes: qa2 muisback (GM) kibitzes: may be 29. Qa2 21 muisback (GM) kibitzes: but rb1 rb1 qf6 29... Rxb1 7 30. Rxb1 1 30... Qf4 1 muisback (GM) kibitzes: qe6 31. Qxe6 9 muisback (GM) kibitzes: qf6 better i think :) 31... Qf7 3 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: no Sea-Hawk (FM) kibitzes: better for white or black? muisback (GM) kibitzes: take on qe5 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Rf1 Lala (FM) kibitzes: Qf6 instead Qf4 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: take on e5? frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: black good 32. Qxe5 23 32... Qxf2 1 muisback (GM) kibitzes: yes Alejandro :) 33. Kh1 1 (33. Kh2 11 33... a2 7 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: back muisback (GM) kibitzes: ra1 34. Ra1 6 34... Rf3 16 muisback (GM) kibitzes: ohhhh!!!!!!!! MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: not good for white MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: go back muisback (GM) kibitzes: ok check d5 35. Qd5 18 35... Kg7 2 muisback (GM) kibitzes: and ra2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: = 36. Rxa2 11 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: hmm MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: perpetual LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: mate in... 36... Qg3 9 37. Kg1 1 15 37... Rxd3 2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: -+ LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: no wait muisback (GM) kibitzes: and draw i think LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yes perpetual LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: wait wait :) (37... Qe1 1 38. Kh2 1 38... Rf1 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: no perpetual LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ok this is very long long long line LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: dont listen to this :) )) 33... a2 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: blacks ok :) muisback (GM) kibitzes: kh2 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: nooooooooo muisback (GM) kibitzes: no kh1 please ) 27... Ra8 4 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: that ugy wants to queen! frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: good for lback ]

26. exd5 1 8 26... axb5 1 7 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: VERY dubious LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: d6 is now strong! 27. d6 b4

[27... Rfd8 0 28. Qd5 1 28... Qf6 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: well this is drawn LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: but 29. Qxc5 8 29... Qxd6 1 30. Qxd6 0 30... Rxd6 1 31. Rxe5 1 31... Rxd3 1 32. a4 6 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: a4 32... b4 1 33. Rb5 3 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Rb5 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: extra pawn MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Ra8 muisback (GM) kibitzes: DRAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this is drawn, yes... but 33... Ra8 16 34. R1xb4 2 34... Ra3 1 35. Rb8 1 35... Rxb8 0 36. Rxb8 1 36... Kg7 1 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: rb4 37. Ra8 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and Leko should draw this EASILY LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yes this position is a draw (37. Rb4 24 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: doesnt change that much LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: still drawn MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: hmmm LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: with good play LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: I can harass your king side pawns Sea-Hawk (FM) kibitzes: still, I doubt he'd want to defend this vs. kramnik LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: perhaps not Ra3 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Bogeza just g5 when you get your king passed the efile )]

28. a4

[28. axb4 36 frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: more complicating 0 28... cxb4 1 1 29. Qd5 1 Sea-Hawk (FM) kibitzes: c4 was also possible, btw 2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this line? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: well just 29... Qf6 7 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: = LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: hmm, I was wondering what you guys were talking about LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: I dont know Sea-Hawk (FM) kibitzes: Rxe5 really? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: anyone else not keeping up? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: chess.fm is commenting for more basic commentaries LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: so this is almost equal MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: suka means bitchin russian.Pls no more comments asukat Sea-Hawk (FM) kibitzes: rxe5-d7-rxbpawn LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and b4 is a clear improvement 6 30. Rxe5 1 30... Rfd8 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and = Lala (FM) kibitzes: i always have the feeling we play svesnikov positions here 31. d7 5 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: overworked queen Initiative (DM) kibitzes: d7 Rxd7 Rxb4!? Initiative (DM) kibitzes: oops, just kidding LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: what? 31... Rxd7 33 32. Rxb4 1 Initiative (DM) kibitzes: no no BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Rxb4 mate Initiative (DM) kibitzes: I repented of it :) BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: forced Initiative (DM) kibitzes: Rxb4 Re8+ LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: hey thats not that innocuos :Pbut it doesnt work 32... Rxb4 19 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Kg7 Rb1 Qf4 33. Re8 1 33... Kg7 0 34. Qxd7 1 34... Rb1 1 Initiative (DM) kibitzes: but just Rxd7 Rxb8+ Rd8 35. Kh2 2 Initiative (DM) kibitzes: oh, that too Initiative (DM) kibitzes: loses even more ways ]

28... Rfd8 55 126

[28... e4 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ;) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ok this is another weird idea 0 29. dxe4 17 (29. Rxe4 1 29... Qd5 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and d6 is doomed LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: which is at least fine for black ; 29. Qxe4 18 29... Rfd8 4 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and there is on d5 square! LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: so the d6 is doomed again ) 29... c4 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this is called POWER LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: those pawns are scary LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ;) ]

29. Qd5 Qf6 30. Qxc5

[30. Rxe5 2 MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: Rd6 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Re8 oh yes :) MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: only LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: only LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ok for starters 1 30... Qxd6 1 10 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this move loses LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: thank Lala for pointing it out (30... Rxd6 36 1) 31. Qxd6 1 (31. Re8 10 31... Kg7 13 32. Qxd6 1 32... Rxd6 1 33. Rxb8 1) 31... Rxd6 1 32. Rxc5 0 32... Rxd3 1 33. Rb5 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this was better for white LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: but probably drawn MadMiki (GM) kibitzes: why not Rd6 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: I think Kramnik wanted to take with the d pawn and c4 e5 LazyPawn (IM) kibitzes: e4 Qxe4 Rfd8 Qe5 Qxe5 Rxe5 Rxd6 Rxc5 Rxd3 Rb5 was leading to the same position Lala (FM) kibitzes: Re8! + before ]

30... Qxd6 0 0 0 0

[30... b3 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: looks better though ;) 31. Rxe5 13 31... Rxd6 1 32. d4 14 32... Kg7 3 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: white is better LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: but blacks passer gives a nice chance for a draw ]

31. Qxd6 1 0 0 1 31... Rxd6 1 0 2 2 32. Rxe5 1 1 3 2

[32. Re4 1]

32... b3

[32... Rxd3 1 1 2 33. Rb5 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: not = LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: its better for black LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: but the endgame should be drawn BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Ra8 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: better for WHITE LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: sorry 1 1 33... Ra8 29 5 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Ra8 R5b4 Kg7 1 34. R1xb4 1 (34. R5xb4 21 4 2 34... Ra3 7 1 AKhruschiov (IM) whispers: Rb8 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: why not thi? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: it seems simple AKhruschiov (IM) kibitzes: Rb8 (34... Kg7 1 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Kg7 35. Ra1 4 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Rd2 EmergingEnigma (IM) kibitzes: compare to kharlov-nisipeanu 2004 35... Rd2 17 36. a5 4 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Re8 36... Re8 8 37. a6 7 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Ree2 37... Ree2 4 38. a7 1 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: sorry BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Ra5 first thevb ) 35. Rb8 1 20 35... Rxb8 0 0 36. Rxb8 2 2 36... Kg7 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: = 1 37. Rb4 7 (37. Ra8 1 37... Kf6 1 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Kg7 is easier, with two rooks LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: = no? AKhruschiov (IM) kibitzes: You know...sometimes this is hard play :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yes LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this endgame is drawn LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: we expect for Leko to draw it easily AKrushciov :) ) 37... Kf6 2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this is draw guys.. 38. Rf4 12 38... Ke6 0 39. h4 3 39... h6 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: = 40. Kf1 9 40... Ra2 1 (40... Ra1 8 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: it is easier to hold with 2 rooks LP 41. Ke2 1 41... Ra2 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: I dont know Balogh LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this is very drawn 42. Kd3 12 42... g5 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: overpowrked rook 43. Rf3 12 43... Rxa4 1) 41. Ke1 9 41... Ra1 3 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) ) 34... Kg7 2 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: hoKg7 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: I think Leko should hold this easily BUT BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: R5xb4 rather LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: we said the same thing in game 1!!! ]

33. Rb5 4 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: forced LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yes this is simpler LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: nice by Leko 140

[33. a5 0 33... Rxd3 1 34. a6 6 34... b2 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: not really LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: since K controls it so easily 35. a7 12 35... Ra8 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: = LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: dead dead dead = 36. Ra5 8 36... Rd7 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: dead = -.- ]

33... Ra8

[33... Rdb6 2 34. R1xb3 3 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: +- LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: so no b3 doesnt work ]

34. R1xb3 12 0 349 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: took with the 1 rook

[34. a5 0 0 0 34... Rxd3 1 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: not hurry? 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: dead draw LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: very draw LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: at least this one 35. R1xb3 1 (35. Kf1 7 35... Kg7 2 36. Ke2 1 36... Rc3 0 37. Kd2 3 37... Rc2 1 38. Ke1 1 (38. Ke3 11 38... Ra2 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: oh well who cares? ) 38... Ra2 1; 35. Ra1 14 35... Kg7 3 (35... Ra6 12 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: is better 36. Kf1 13 (36. Ra3 14 36... Kg7 3 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: so? 37. Kf1 9 37... Rc3 2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: b2 Rxd3 :) ) 36... Rc3 2)) 35... Rxb3 0 36. Rxb3 1 36... Rxa5 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: someone wants to say this is not drawn? BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: looks drawish ;

34. R5xb3 0 0 34... Rxa4 1 1 35. Rd1 2 1 35... Rad4 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: well LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this is well known to be a draw LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: white is too passive LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: k gets where? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: im ramirez LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yeah, some books say this is drawn LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: dont remember if Dvoretsky or Smyslov-Lilienthal ]

34... Rxa4 35. Rb6 0 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Portisch easily won this against a GM

[35. Kf1 0 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: but with one rook, it is much harder to hold baumhauer BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: I saw a Portisch game for that LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: not that much harder, for example ;

35. Re5 0 35... Ra1 1 36. Kh2 2 36... Rd1 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: if Kramnik wins this, he deserves a big chocolate cookie BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: some chances against the f7 37. Re3 17 37... Rd2 1 38. Kg3 1 38... Rd4 1 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Rf3 39. Rf3 4 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: ok 39... f5 2 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Kh2 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: :) 40. Kh2 30 40... Kg7 1 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: ok, draw LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: draw LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: well LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: both endgames are draun, baumhauer LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: but with two rooks its simpler ]

35... Rd7

[35... Rxb6 1 36. Rxb6 1 36... Ra1 1 37. Kh2 1 37... Rd1 1 38. Rd6 1 38... Kf8 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: should be easy BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: not so BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Kg3 39. Kg3 27 39... Ke7 1 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: Rd4 40. Rd4 10 40... Ke6 1 Heine (GM) kibitzes: actually Beliavski and Michailcihins book on ending says this structure gives some chances for white BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: K to e3 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: perhaps its true LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: white has some chances BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: not so easy LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: so, well, as Balogh sais, much easier with two rooks ]

36. Rf6 41 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: well LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this looks familiar 36... Ra1 0 37. Kh2 1 8 37... Rd1 1 6 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) 38. Rf3 1 6 38... h5

[38... Rd2 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: draw LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: I dont see how he will progress here BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: very easy with 2 rooks Lala (FM) kibitzes: looks esthetic 39. g4 25 BaloghCs (GM) kibitzes: I guess, Kramnik wont try for long 39... Kg7 17 40. Kg3 1 40... g5 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yeah nothing for white ]

39. h4 61 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Rd4? 39... Rd2 5 40. g3 Kg7 117 41. Kg2 Rd1 0 0 0 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: btw 821 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: NOO LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: get Leko this endgame analysis

[41... Kg8 0 42. Re3 1 42... Rd1 1;

41... Ra7 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ! LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Im not sure who proposed this LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: but here 41... Ra7 is drawn I think LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: so here LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: 41... Ra7! LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: is dead drawn 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: !! LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: I dont think its worse LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: but this is nicer 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: !!! LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ;);) frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: ok kh3 Lala (FM) kibitzes: best draw! 42. Rf4 21

a) 42. Re3 9 42... Raa2 2 frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: oh thats the point im an idiot ;

b) 42. Rb4 34 42... Rd7 1 frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: rb4 rd7 rbf4 f5 43. Rbf4 5 43... f5 1;

c) 42. Rb6 33 42... Rd7 14 43. Rbf6 1 frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: still rd7 rf6 R2xd3 is draw 43... Rd1 4 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and now? :) muisback (GM) kibitzes: why not r2d3 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: because this is very simple muisback (GM) kibitzes: rf7 muisback (GM) kibitzes: this draw LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this is better muisback LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: look, white has no moves muisback (GM) kibitzes: why better muisback (GM) kibitzes: i think there all draw muisback (GM) kibitzes: here :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this is simpler :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: true though Lala (FM) kibitzes: there are good draws and better draws :) h-bar (FM) kibitzes: this is a philosophical question: which of two moves guaranteeing a draw is better? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: lol ;

d) 42. Kh3 16 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: huh? 42... Rc7 8; 42... Rd7 1 frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: ok re3 ]

42. Re3 Kh7

[42... Kg8 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ! LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: is better LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: or 1 43. f3 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ok this is the only winning try I can see 43... Ra7 14 44. Kf2 2 44... Rh1 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ahhh LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: nice h-bar (FM) kibitzes: anything wrong with the simple kf3 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Kf3 Rd2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and what then? h-bar (FM) kibitzes: instead of f3 which looks weird 45. f4 19 45... f5 3 weasel (FM) kibitzes: re2 46. Re6 13 46... Ra2 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: -+ h-bar (FM) kibitzes: ok, I see ;

42... Kf6 10 43. f3 3 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Tony wants blood! 43... Ra7 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: someone said mate? 34 frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: kf2 44. Kf2 7 44... Raa1 6 frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: re2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) 45. Re2 7 45... Rf1 1 46. Ke3 1 46... Rg1 1 frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: kf4 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: true ;

42... Ra7 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this works :) 43. Kf3 21 43... Rd2 1 frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: re2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: okokok :=) 44. Re2 10 44... Rd1 1 frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: rc2 instead 45. Reb2 25 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: where are you going? (45. Rc2 22 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: now LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ANOTHER line 45... Re7 1 frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: rcc3 46. Rcc3 5 46... Rd2 3 frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: ouch ) 45... Re7 7 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: nono you are not going anywhere :) ;

42... Rd2 1 43. Kf3 1 (43. Kf1 35 43... Ra7 7 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: would be nice if Kramnik gets himself mated LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: although ekaggata is right 44. Ke1 19 44... Rc2 1 45. Rb1 9 45... Raa2 1 46. Rd1 12 46... Rxf2 1 frappeboy (FM) kibitzes: rf3 still fine for white LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: in any case ) 43... Kg8 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: now? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this is fine LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: by forketta ]

43. Kf3 70 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Rd2 43... Rd2

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