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Asunto:[ajedrezlapalma] Leko-Kramnik (1), 2004 World Chess Ch - Brissago (DOS)
Fecha:Sabado, 25 de Septiembre, 2004  22:51:00 (+0100)
Autor:Angel Jiménez <aarteaga @...............com>

PETROFF'S def

28. Re2

[28. a4 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: since Re2 Red8 we analyzed to be nothing for white ]

28... Red8

[28... c3 1 0 Herman (IM) kibitzes: 33 a5 looked good for white LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this loses LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: no? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: no it didnt Herman, it was a draw with luck 0 29. Rxe8 20 1 Initiative (DM) kibitzes: without help, too, LP - I was repeating it for the 3,000,000th person to ask about it 29... Rxe8 1 slint (IM) kibitzes: re8 and qd7 1 30. Qd7 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this wins Initiative (DM) kibitzes: Rd2 c3 isn't good for black: Rxd4 c2 Rxd8+ Rxd8 Qc7! wins LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yeah we saw this already mca (FM) kibitzes: we saw this already ... black is losing 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: oh I see LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ok Rb8? what? 30... Re1 15 (30... Rb8 14 31. Qxd4 1 31... c2 7 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: hmm LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: let me check 32. Qd2 23 Initiative (DM) kibitzes: Qc-any wins, right? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ! LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yes this wins Initiative (DM) kibitzes: er, never mind that last comment :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: no any Qc is met by Rb1+ and C1 Q 32... Rb1 12 33. Kh2 1 33... c1=Q 1 Initiative (DM) kibitzes: I know, I know Initiative (DM) kibitzes: but this does it LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and Qd8++ LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: I dont play it because it stops examination :) 34. Qd8# 13) 31. Kh2 1 31... Be5 1 32. f4 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ew already saw that Initiative LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: like 2091 times LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and I already COPYRIGHTED it ;

28... Rf8 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: okok you got it you got it 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: well LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ok since we have nothing else to analyze LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this move I just dont like 29. a4 8 (29. Re7 25 29... c3 4 30. Rc7 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: nah I dont like this much LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: I need my rook on d8 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: now Rb8 doesnt work LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: cause of Qd5 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Rb8 Qd5 Be5 Qxe5 ) 29... c3 7 30. Qe4 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: I dont like this ]

29. a4

[29. Re7 10 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this is a funny line 7 29... Bf6 2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ;) 24 1 30. Rc7 1 26 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ok we analyzed here (30. Rxf7 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: you know in this line black doesnt have to take the draw LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: is drawn LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: but 30... c3 16 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: is interesting LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and guess something! 31. Rc7 8 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: available a move before LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: is no long good :D 31... Rd1 7 32. Kh2 1 32... Be5 1 33. g3 1 33... Rxc7 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and blacks happy losing his pawn Initiative (DM) kibitzes: right, but why not go for this line without Rxf7? ) 30... Rd1 1 28 (30... Rb8 18 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: is another story though and afterwards I win the exchange :) 5 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Rb8! LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: blakcs very very infe LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: fine * LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: pawn on c3 Initiative (DM) kibitzes: whoopsie! 31. Qe4 35 Initiative (DM) kibitzes: Qe4 or something, but black's probably drawing easily, at least 31... c3 7 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: drawing easily at least is correct :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: white is so discoordinated ) 31. Kh2 1 0 31... Be5 1 1 32. g3 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: black cant take the rook :) 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and black cant take the rook :) 32... Bxc7 21 33. Qxc8 0 33... Bd8 0 34. Qxc4 1;

29. Re4 14 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: cheapos all the way! LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: you guys want a cheapo line? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: subtilities isnt subtitles -.- LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yeah guess that Phish :) 60 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: hey someone tell that idiot from chess.fm my line an less he sais it right LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: LOL its chess TheChesKid LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ANYWAYS LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Re4 I cant believe is best 1 29... c3 12 2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: some people dont see analysis? 27 Amitabh (IM) kibitzes: ds (29... Bf6 55 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: is more the fine though LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: dead draw Casey LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: actually its drawn with two bishops vs queen 54 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and as I said before LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: blacks the only one that can win LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: sure 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and black is better LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yeah, I wouldnt mind them chearing me, as long as they do it on my opponents ear ) 30. Rxd4 1 8 0 30... c2 0 15 0 31. Rxd8 2 1 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: details :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: check * 31... Rxd8 0 0 32. Qc7 1 1 32... Rd1 1 1 33. Kh2 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and black cant queen :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: if there was no b-file he could LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: chess if full of subtilities 0 Fier (FM) kibitzes: +- LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: because it wins? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yeah LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: but somepeople didnt listen ;

29. Rd2 6 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Red8 is good LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: trys to exchange favourably LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: www.chess.fm LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: if you want any -.- 16 1 29... Bf6 6 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: =+ 2 mca (FM) kibitzes: Rxd8 1 (29... Be5 4 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: perhaps Bf6 easier slint (IM) kibitzes: c3 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: c3 loses :) ; 29... c3 17 30. Rxd4 0 30... c2 1 slint (IM) kibitzes: o yea 31. Rxd8 1 31... Rxd8 0 32. Qc7 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: sorry if I like this line too much LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: harhar ) 30. Rxd8 14 2 30... Rxd8 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: blacks ok mca (FM) kibitzes: a4 now junior (GM) kibitzes: qc7 and a4 0 31. Qc7 30 (31. Qc6 1 31... c3 23 Initiative (DM) kibitzes: c3 a4 g6 anyway 32. a4 0 32... g6 4 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: tes LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yes * LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: anyways 33. Qxf6 14 33... Rd1 1 34. Kh2 0 34... c2 1 slint (IM) kibitzes: rook d onie LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: oh ALWAYS calculate passed pawns :) Herman (IM) kibitzes: 33 a5 mca (FM) kibitzes: I prefer Qc7 instead of Qc6 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yeah and the Q is worst on c6 ) 31... c3 1 32. a4 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: just a joke Herman (IM) kibitzes: Maybe Qc6 instead of Qc7 32... Re8 3 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: cheapo :) junior (GM) kibitzes: g3 :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: jeje ok (32... g6 24 33. a5 2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: well that pawn is getting to a7 :S 33... Rd2 18 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: !! 34. a6 2 34... Ra2 2 35. a7 1 35... Kg7 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: oh yes fun lines LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and this is another nice deadlock slint (IM) kibitzes: qc5 only? Herman (IM) kibitzes: Qc6! 36. Qc6 23 (36. Qc5 9 36... c2 0 37. a8=Q 1 37... Rxa8 1 38. Qxc2 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: = slint (IM) kibitzes: no c2? mca (FM) kibitzes: after Kg7 g4 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: actually its easier to play with black :) ) 36... Rxa7 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: -.- Herman (IM) kibitzes: 31 Qc6 );

29. Qb1 1 29... c3 0 30. Qa2 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ok a new plan 30... Bf6 19 slint (IM) kibitzes: Be5! 25 (30... Be5 11 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yeah slint (IM) kibitzes: yeah it sucks prob LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: lol LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: its not the best ) 31. a4 9 31... Ra8 1 (31... Rb8 38 32. a5 6 32... Rb2 1 33. Qc4 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ok for white at least MasterLev (FM) kibitzes: i think black can win this LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: no he cant MasterLev (FM) kibitzes: g6 first 33... Rxe2 16 (33... g6 27 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ok yes perhaps this plan is too passive 34. a6 1 MasterLev (FM) kibitzes: Kg7 34... Kg7 19 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Re7 blunders a rook 35. Re8 37 (35. Re7 2 35... Bxe7 0 36. Qxc3 0 36... Bf6 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) )) 34. Qxe2 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this is unwinnable MasterLev (FM) kibitzes: no Rxe2 ) 32. a5 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yes this is the dead locked positions I thought of LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: now LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: anyone want to come up with a plan? MasterLev (FM) kibitzes: why not Rb8-b2 slint (IM) kibitzes: Rb8-b2 MasterLev (FM) kibitzes: instead of Ra8 ]

29... c3 36 106 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yes 30. Qe4 Bb6

[30... g6 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yeah cant see how black will lose 0 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: as I said :) 31. a5 30 1 6 muisback (GM) kibitzes: lol :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this though I dont know how will be won LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this is our line Rauf LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: apart from that I dont know what else 31... Bf6 1 (31... Be5 11 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: !! 1 20 32. Qxe5 27 0 0 32... c2 0 1 1 33. Rxc2 1 1 1 33... Rxc2 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and this should be draw LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: is something to watch out for though :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: never understimate :) 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) IndianCobra (IM) kibitzes: Ra8-a2? ROONEY (GM) kibitzes: Hi Little! LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and its drawn LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Hi rooney :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yeah its fun to make them 58 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this should be around equal too 2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: draw :) muisback (GM) kibitzes: it is draw ; 31... Rc4 30 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: cheapo :) 32. Qb1 15) 32. a6 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: hey LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: i got another brilliancy ]

31. Qc2

[31. Qb4 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this loses I think LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: not c2? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: but 31... Bxf2 13 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: !!! LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: destroying whites kingside depressnyak (GM) kibitzes: white is obviously cant win ;

31. Rc2 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: 13 depressnyak (GM) kibitzes: it would be interesting to see 2RvsQ and 3 pawns vs 3pawns on king side LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: it would've been interesting LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: pity they didn't play it LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: black is playing for a win now yes muisback (GM) kibitzes: GOOD LUCK !!!!!!!!!! LITTLEPEASANT IndianCobra (IM) kibitzes: Isnt that wining for Rooks Depressnyak? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: I guess its white who has t ostart looking for a draw 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: is one of the best moves LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Bb6 is surprising and good yes Tejas (IM) kibitzes: Cobra ur knowledge is impeccable! LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: Ba5-Rd2-Rxc2-Rc1+-c2 :) ]

31... g6

[31... Ba5 0 32. Qb3 1 9 32... Rc7 16 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ??????????? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ok guys white to move wins in 1 (32... Rd7 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: so this looks interesting 33. Qb5 9 33... Rd1 1 34. Kh2 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: well LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: suddenly we find a line where whites ok 34... Bc7 16 35. g3 1) 33. Qd5 13 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: +- 33... Rcc8 14 (33... Rcd7 3 34. Qxd7 0) 34. Qxa5 1]

32. Qb3 1 0 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: so black better thing up something else LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: heyhey we got our move :=)

32... Rd6 121 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: problem now is LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: we dont have Rd2

[32... Rd2 16 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: white * 0 33. Re7 10 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and white wins LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this guy is hanging LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: so this is winning for black 1 33... Rxf2 18 (33... Bxf2 1 34. Kh1 1) 34. Qxb6 8 34... c2 3 35. Rc7 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and white wins ;

32... Bc7 8 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: cheapo? anyone? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: is the threat :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: actually no LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: thats not a threat LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: never mind ;

32... Rb8 67;

32... Ba5 1 0 33. Re7 1 1 33... Rf8 15 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: no choice :S LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: "finger littlepeasant" note 10 1 34. Re2 12 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this lloks like a good drawins line? 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: I cant find anything but a draw 34... Rcd8 38 (34... Rc7 6 35. g3 10; 34... Rc5 5) 35. Re5 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ! ]

33. Rc2 Ba5

[33... Rdc6 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: anyone? ]

34. g4

[34. Qb5 1 0 34... Rd2 7 1 35. Qb7 9 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: interesting LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: notice that black has to be really watchful of perpetual (35. Qa6 22 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: even better 7 35... Re8 5 (35... Rxc2 1 36. Qxc8 1 36... Kg7 1 37. Qc5 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: u sure there isnt? 37... Bd8 13 (37... Rd2 21 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: nice, but losing 38. Qxa5 5 38... c2 1 39. Qc3 1 39... Kg8 1 40. Kh2 1 (40. Qxd2 3 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :P ); 37... Re2 12 38. Qxa5 1 38... c2 1 39. Qc3 2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: +- ) 38. a5 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: hmm who is trying to win again? ;) AGEA (FM) kibitzes: I'm NOT sure of anything LP, especially when analyzing with you :-) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) ) 36. Rc1 1 36... c2 0 37. Rxc2 1 37... Rxc2 0 38. Qxa5 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: draw perhaps ; 35. Rc1 0 35... c2 0 36. Rxc2 0);

34. Qb7 20 34... Rdc6 7 AGEA (FM) kibitzes: if qb5 instead of qb7? ]

34... Rd2 206

[34... Rb6 0 35. Qd5 6 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: not really LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: not much to attack, no time either 35... Rb2 46 36. Rc1 1 36... Bb6 1 37. a5 2 37... Bxf2 2 38. Kh1 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: black won a pawn LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: but he is discoordinate as hell compared to how he was AGEA (FM) kibitzes: this looks horrible for white, there must be something better LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: actually LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: I think white is just fine LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: yeah whites good here 38... c2 65 39. Qd7 5]

35. Kg2 Rcd8 246

[35... Rxc2 0 36. Qxc3 0 (36. Qxc2 2 36... Rd8 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: CAVEMAN LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ok lets see 37. Qe4 16 mca (FM) kibitzes: Qb1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: is my bet LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: powerful queen LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: doesnt look good :) );

35... Re8 0 36. Rxc3 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: good enough for at least a draw :) ]

36. Rxc3 Bxc3 28 9 37. Qxc3 R2d5

[37... R8d5 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: !! ]

38. Qc6

[38. a5 0 38... Ra8 1 39. a6 1 39... Rd6 6 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ! 40. a7 3 40... Rd7 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: =+ LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: I think white should use his tempo, the one he has while black goblles the a pawn, to coordinate threats against the black king ]

38... Ra5 14 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: what happens now? 12 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: f4! 39. Kg3 22 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: nooooooo LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: it was f4 :( LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: okok this isnt that bad

[39. f4 4 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ! LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: push em up :) 15 39... Rda8 17 (39... Rd3 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: what mate threats? 40. Qc8 14 40... Kg7 0 41. Qc4 2 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :S ) 40. g5 1 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this is the setup leko goes for when he plays g4 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: this is probably drawn 40... Rxa4 37 41. Kf3 2]

39... Rda8 23 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: and im not joking AGEA (FM) kibitzes: kh4 h6? LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ok perhaps not :) 40. h4 R5a6

[40... Rxa4 0 41. g5 0 LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: ! LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: is drawn LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: I like this g5 idea, im sticking iwth it :) depressnyak (GM) kibitzes: this is draw LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: thanks depressnyak : LittlePeasant (GM) kibitzes: :) ]

41. Qc1